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"The woods gathered the cold, as if the tall trees were a kind of vault. And the sharp redolence of pine seemed to drive the cold up behind one's eyes." p. 216
I felt that one. Kind of like an ice cream headache. Ouch. Well done! |
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Quote: Haven't we been informed that journalists embedded in the Iraq War are a radical new concept? *Secesh: took me a while to figger out this was shorthand for "secessionist". |
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I had something to say about General Kilpatrick, but I've forgotten now. I'll have to go back and skim over that chapter again and see if I can remember. In the meantime, any thoughts on the character of Kilpatrick?
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Still haven't remembered what I meant to say about Kilpatrick. Maybe it's time to push the spike in, eh?
That's a joke you'll get later on. The passage in which Pearl realizes the problematic nature of her complicity with the white men of the Union army was, to my mind, one of the most effective moment in the novel. It may not be a terribly original point to make, but I do appreciate that it leads to complexities that must seriously daunt a person in her position. It also makes me want to read some Nella Larson, who wrote about the issue of "Passing" in a time when the subject was far more volatile than now -- long before Philip Roth offered up "The Human Stain". I might also point out that Pearl is the dominant strain in the novel. She's the character that has most consistently held the spotlight, so to speak. So I think it's important that we talk about Pearl, about how Doctorow has handled her as a character, what we think of her, how we react to her, and so on. As for my part, I'm not entirely sure how I feel. There are times when I've found her story rather flat. But at the same time, I think she's a very appealing character. I think that's due in large part to a very basic contradiction. On the one hand, she's a very ambiguous figure, able to pass for white, able to pass for a boy, endearing herself to a number of different characters and suiting herself to a number of different lifestyles. And at the same time, she's a very strong character, distinct in her personality, determined. While reading, I sometimes found myself hoping that she'd find a more compelling story. And at times it emerged -- crossing paths with Mattie Jameson again, for instance, and the passage I alluded to above. |
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- Godless in America: Conversations With an Atheist - by George A. Ricker
- Interventions - by Noam Chomsky
- Religious Expression and the American Constitution - by Franklyn S. Haiman
- Deep Economy: The Wealth of Communities and the Durable Future - by Bill McKibben
- The God Delusion - by Richard Dawkins
- The Third Chimpanzee: The Evolution and Future of the Human Animal - by Jared Diamond
- The Woman in the Dunes - by Abe Kobo
- Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction - by Eugenie Scott
- The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals - by Michael Pollan
- I, Claudius: From the Autobiography of Tiberius Claudius, Born 10 B.C., Murdered and Deified A.D. 54 - by Robert Graves
- Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon - by Daniel Dennett
- A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East - by David Fromkin
- The Time Traveler's Wife - by Audrey Niffenegger
- The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason - by Sam Harris
- Ender's Game - by Orson Scott Card
- The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time - by Mark Haddon
- Value & Virtue in a Godless Universe - by Erik J. Wielenberg
- The March: A Novel - by E.L. Doctorow
- The Ethical Brain - by Michael Gazzaniga
- Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism - by Susan Jacoby
- Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed - by Jared Diamond
- The Battle for God - by Karen Armstrong
- The Future of Life - by Edward O. Wilson
- What is Good? The Search for the Best Way to Live - by A.C. Grayling
- Civilization and It's Enemies: The Next Stage of History - by Lee Harris
- Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space - by Carl Sagan
- How We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God - by Michael Shermer
- Looking For Spinoza: Joy, Sorrow, and the Feeling Brain - by Antonio Damasio
- Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right - by Al Franken
- The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature - by Matt Ridley
- The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature - by Stephen Pinker
- Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder - by Richard Dawkins
- Atheism: A Reader - edited by S. T. Joshi
- Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind from the Big Bang to the 21st Century - by Howard Bloom
- The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition into the Forces of History - by Howard Bloom
- Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies - by Jared Diamond
- Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark - by Carl Sagan
- Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West - by Dee Alexander Brown
- Future Shock - by Alvin Toffler
