The Islamic world supports and condones those suicide bombings. I just watched another show about this subject today. Throughout the Palestinian territory there are hundreds of government funded posters and billboards encouraging and praising martyrdom behavior. Most Palestinians celebrate and praise the killing of innocent Israelis.
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nickelplate416 : "It wasn't my intention to start a debate on the Israel/Palestine conflict,"
I can see that. " and I will not take sides here " Clearly. "Yet they didn't respond by randomly blowing up schools, buses, buildings or planes, killing dozens or hundreds of civilians in the process." You didn't see what Israel "supposedly" just did to Lebanon a couple of months ago? Quote: I think my questions were pretty neutral. It shouldn't matter what bias one may have, (whether it's state induced or home grown) anyone should able, and any freethinker should be willing, to compare what flash cards are being shown by the corporate owned liberal media, to what's actually been happening on the ground -- in "*reality*". And see how it statistically looks on the scales -- without "choosing sides." Chris: "there are hundreds of government funded posters and billboards encouraging and praising martyrdom behavior. Most Palestinians celebrate and praise the killing of innocent Israelis" They were like parades, I tell ya!! |
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I'm sure there is a powerful message behind that post, God defiles Reason, but I'm missing it. Care to explain?
My point is that the Muslim world supports and encourages their people strapping bombs on their bodies and detonating them in public places killing innocent men, women and children. Do you also support suicide bombings? |
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Posts: 393 09/04/06 15:33:58 Banned User |
Chris: "I'm sure there is a powerful message behind that post, God defiles Reason, but I'm missing it. Care to explain?"
Check into those questions yet? Chris: "Do you also support suicide bombings? " Do you also support Nazi style reprisals? |
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"You didn't see what Israel "supposedly" just did to Lebanon a couple of months ago?"
Israel does not sponsor or encourage terrorist attacks against any entity, civilian or not, Muslim or not. If an Israeli was caught blowing up a Muslim school or a Palestinian community in Israel, I guarantee you that he would be trialed and put to jail. And if he was caught doing this in another country, Israel would not come to his defense. In any case, here is a very well written counterpoint on the current Israel/Lebanon tragedy: www.uwire.com/content//to...06002.html And Nasrallah (head of Hezbollah) also said this about Jews: "If we searched the entire world for a person more cowardly, despicable, weak and feeble in psyche, mind, ideology and religion, we would not find anyone like the Jew. Notice, I do not say the Israeli." (in the New Yorker, 14/10/02) This is antisemitism, plain and simple. |
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nickelplate416 :
"And Nasrallah (head of Hezbollah) also said this about Jews:" I ask you about recent actions, and you respond with what somebody said? How do words compare to actions? Did that quote come from your own personal stash of bias? or was that the best you could find in a search? "This is anti-Semitism, plain and simple." Anti-Semite. Now there's a creation that probably deserves a whole thread of discussion. Thank the good lord for the mad max meme just when our friends are committing atrocities. What is your opinion of taking a neutral stance while examining Israel's actions? |
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Nickelplate416
Quote:A point that a significant number of people refuse to consider, but one that I think matters greatly. Quote:And if a Palestinian were caught doing likewise he would be praised as a hero and rewarded financially by the governing terrorist organization. Quote:This seems crytsal clear to anyone with their eyes open. Oh, and welcome to BookTalk Nickelplate416. I'm enjoying your posts. 
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Nickelplate416
You made a comment earlier that stuck in my head. Quote:For a message supposedly coming from a all-knowing and all-powerful superhero there sure is some confusion. Couldn't this deity have delivered are more precise and clear message so that billions of his children wouldn't slaughter each other due to translation errors? |
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We liike d' way u talk
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Posts: 33 09/13/06 19:48:08 Rapidly gaining experience |
Yeah, I never understood why people blame humans for the evils of religion. The religious authorities or apologists would have us believe that the Inquisition, the beheadings and suicide bombings by Islamofascists, were perpetrated by people who distorted the meaning of their religious doctrine. But ask them to clarify that meaning, and you will get 33,830 responses (the 2001 edition of the World Christian Encyclopedia actually counts 33,830 denominations of Christianity). An omnipotent, all-knowing, loving deity would never let so much confusion arise in the first place. Nobody ever wonders if the Nazi had misinterpreted Hitler's "Mein Kampf". Why should religion get a different treatment?
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If you support the side that slaughters the most civilians, what does that make you?
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I don't support any side, I only support freedom, reason and compassion.
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- What is Good? The Search for the Best Way to Live - by A.C. Grayling
- Civilization and It's Enemies: The Next Stage of History - by Lee Harris
- Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space - by Carl Sagan
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