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- The Woman in the Dunes - by Abe Kobo
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- The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature - by Stephen Pinker
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- Atheism: A Reader - edited by S. T. Joshi
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- Future Shock - by Alvin Toffler
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Witty&Wise
Posts: 447 07/20/07 20:33:27 BookTalk Moderator |
Where's the story I typed up about my experience as a JW? I don't see that forum here anymore. Did you move the story somewhere else or delete it?
Cheryl Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear. -Thomas Jefferson
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Frank 013 |
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Posts: 1457 07/20/07 21:16:18 Moderator |
You were not addressing me but... Its there now.
Later Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
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Chris OConnor |
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Posts: 9511 07/20/07 22:32:04 BookTalk Owner |
Cheryl, that story should still be there. And I'd love to put it on a special page, but there are a few places with swear words from what I remember. I don't want to edit your writing, but I feel weird about putting up that version. Want to discuss it? Maybe we can edit a few words!
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misterpessimistic |
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Posts: 4113 07/21/07 06:58:12 Indisputable BookTalk Master |
Uh..."swear words"!?!?!
Chris, I think I saw your balls in a dumpster up here in NJ...should I send them down to you? Mr. P. But atheism is no more a religion than not playing chess is a hobby. - Robert Sawyer - Sci Fi Author
I'm not saying it's usual for people to do those things but I(with the permission of God) have raised a dog from the dead and healed many people from all sorts of ailments. - Asana Boditharta (former booktalk troll) "The Sentient may percieve and love the universe, but the universe cannot percieve and love the sentient. The universe sees no distinction between the multitude of creatures and elements which comprise it. All are equal. None is favored...It cannot control what it creates and it cannot, it seems, be controlled by its creations (though a few might decieve themselves otherwise). Those who curse the workings of the universe curse that which is deaf. Those who strike out at those workings fight that which is inviolate. Those who shake their fists, shake their fists at blind stars." - Michael Moorcock in the "Queen of the Swords" |
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Chris OConnor |
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Posts: 9511 07/21/07 11:13:05 BookTalk Owner |
LOL I know I know.
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NaddiaAoC |
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Witty&Wise
Posts: 447 07/22/07 02:34:16 BookTalk Moderator |
Thanks Frank.
Chris, This is non-religious, fairly liberal site, and you're concerned about some swear words?! Cheryl Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear. -Thomas Jefferson
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Chris OConnor |
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Posts: 9511 07/22/07 09:09:38 BookTalk Owner |
From what I remember that swear word I am referring to is "fuck." Even on a liberal site an "article" probably shouldn't have that particular swear word. Using such words in posts is fine, but once it is posted in an actual article it seems inappropriate. I'll have to look it over again, but I remember reading it feeling this is such an awesome story...but then I ran across that word. I am ok with that word, but I just thought everyone might not be.
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NaddiaAoC |
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Witty&Wise
Posts: 447 07/22/07 22:19:19 BookTalk Moderator |
Chris,
Ah, I see. If it was an "article" of a philosophical or scientific nature, I probably wouldn't think it appropriate to use swear words. This, however, is more of an autobiographical story. It's full of emotion and may stir emotions. There are portions of the story that some people may find offensive because of the content rather than the swearing. Either way, I'm not inclined to change it because of the sensibilities of others. I wrote from my experience, and some of those experiences caused me great sadness and intense anger. I tried to express that both in what I said and in the way I write. If others don't like that, they certainly don't have to read it. And I wouldn't be opposed to posting a disclaimer with it that it has some harsh language, but I have no intention of editing it out of fear that some might be offended by the language. So if you're not comfortable posting it as an article, I'm fine with merely leaving it as a post. Thanks Cheryl Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear. -Thomas Jefferson
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misterpessimistic |
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Posts: 4113 07/23/07 11:07:25 Indisputable BookTalk Master |
I am with Cheryl on this. It is a personal story and words, even words some people want to make worse than what they are...a word...should be used for effect.
Or should we start burning books like other ig'nant groups of the past? Mr. P. But atheism is no more a religion than not playing chess is a hobby. - Robert Sawyer - Sci Fi Author
I'm not saying it's usual for people to do those things but I(with the permission of God) have raised a dog from the dead and healed many people from all sorts of ailments. - Asana Boditharta (former booktalk troll) "The Sentient may percieve and love the universe, but the universe cannot percieve and love the sentient. The universe sees no distinction between the multitude of creatures and elements which comprise it. All are equal. None is favored...It cannot control what it creates and it cannot, it seems, be controlled by its creations (though a few might decieve themselves otherwise). Those who curse the workings of the universe curse that which is deaf. Those who strike out at those workings fight that which is inviolate. Those who shake their fists, shake their fists at blind stars." - Michael Moorcock in the "Queen of the Swords" |
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Posts: 1457 07/23/07 11:25:26 Moderator |
Down with sensorship!
Hell no we won't go! Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting..."Holy Crap...what a ride!" |
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Chris OConnor |
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Posts: 9511 09/10/07 00:26:24 BookTalk Owner |
I will post it as an article when I find a spare moment to work on that section of the web site. I really need to find one or two people to pay to help with this site. Cheryl's story is worth sharing and continuously adding quality content is important for so many reasons. Cheryl and/or Frank, please remind me about this in the Moderator forum. Thanks.
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- Godless in America: Conversations With an Atheist - by George A. Ricker
- Interventions - by Noam Chomsky
- Religious Expression and the American Constitution - by Franklyn S. Haiman
- Deep Economy: The Wealth of Communities and the Durable Future - by Bill McKibben
- The God Delusion - by Richard Dawkins
- The Third Chimpanzee: The Evolution and Future of the Human Animal - by Jared Diamond
- The Woman in the Dunes - by Abe Kobo
- Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction - by Eugenie Scott
- The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals - by Michael Pollan
- I, Claudius: From the Autobiography of Tiberius Claudius, Born 10 B.C., Murdered and Deified A.D. 54 - by Robert Graves
- Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon - by Daniel Dennett
- A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East - by David Fromkin
- The Time Traveler's Wife - by Audrey Niffenegger
- The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason - by Sam Harris
- Ender's Game - by Orson Scott Card
- The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time - by Mark Haddon
- Value & Virtue in a Godless Universe - by Erik J. Wielenberg
- The March: A Novel - by E.L. Doctorow
- The Ethical Brain - by Michael Gazzaniga
- Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism - by Susan Jacoby
- Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed - by Jared Diamond
- The Battle for God - by Karen Armstrong
- The Future of Life - by Edward O. Wilson
- What is Good? The Search for the Best Way to Live - by A.C. Grayling
- Civilization and It's Enemies: The Next Stage of History - by Lee Harris
- Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space - by Carl Sagan
- How We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God - by Michael Shermer
- Looking For Spinoza: Joy, Sorrow, and the Feeling Brain - by Antonio Damasio
- Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right - by Al Franken
- The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature - by Matt Ridley
- The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature - by Stephen Pinker
- Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder - by Richard Dawkins
- Atheism: A Reader - edited by S. T. Joshi
- Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind from the Big Bang to the 21st Century - by Howard Bloom
- The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition into the Forces of History - by Howard Bloom
- Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies - by Jared Diamond
- Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark - by Carl Sagan
- Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West - by Dee Alexander Brown
- Future Shock - by Alvin Toffler
