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As cool as this is I cannot help but think of the military uses for such technology. Chemical weapons could be delivered unnoticed and unchallenged by attaching small amounts to (or actually inside) birds bodies and then controlling their flight remotely. And a bird could be flown to a window ledge and allowed to sit for a few hours right before a diplomat is scheduled to pass beneath the window. A button is pushed and the bird releases the chemical or actually explodes spreading Anthrax or whatever all over the target.
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misterpessimistic |
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I dont like this sort of thing. Another case of 'just because we CAN, does not mean we SHOULD".
As for military use...what about advancements making it possible to deliver this to a human target and thus controlling us? Mr. P. I'm not saying it's usual for people to do those things but I(with the permission of God) have raised a dog from the dead and healed many people from all sorts of ailments. - Asana Boditharta (former booktalk troll) The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. What is all this shit about Angels? Have you heard this? 3 out of 4 people believe in Angels. Are you F****** STUPID? Has everybody lost their mind? - George Carlin I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper |
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Posts: 9504 02/28/07 10:17:18 BookTalk Owner |
This would be a pretty scary world if stuff like that happened. Imagine not being able to know whether or not the guy next to you is being controlled remotely. He could have some sort of bomb up his ass.
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Posts: 641 02/28/07 10:26:23 OMG I'm Awesome! |
Chris: Imagine not being able to know whether or not the guy next to you is being controlled remotely. He could have some sort of bomb up his ass.
UmmmChris, we already have this. It's just not technology that is controlling "the guy next to you"; it's religion. |
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misterpessimistic |
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Oh IRISH!!!!
Mr. P. I'm not saying it's usual for people to do those things but I(with the permission of God) have raised a dog from the dead and healed many people from all sorts of ailments. - Asana Boditharta (former booktalk troll) The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. What is all this shit about Angels? Have you heard this? 3 out of 4 people believe in Angels. Are you F****** STUPID? Has everybody lost their mind? - George Carlin I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper |
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Posts: 641 02/28/07 17:03:29 OMG I'm Awesome! |
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misterpessimistic |
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Posts: 4113 02/28/07 17:44:34 Indisputable BookTalk Master |
Just because they were there... Mr. P. I'm not saying it's usual for people to do those things but I(with the permission of God) have raised a dog from the dead and healed many people from all sorts of ailments. - Asana Boditharta (former booktalk troll) The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. What is all this shit about Angels? Have you heard this? 3 out of 4 people believe in Angels. Are you F****** STUPID? Has everybody lost their mind? - George Carlin I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper |
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Posts: 600 03/11/07 12:27:42 OMG I'm Awesome! |
Reminds me of how the population was controlled through their bluetooth earpieces in the Cybermen episode of Dr. Who.
[oops. Sorry. Did my inner-geek just say that aloud?] SF, the laboratory of wild ideas for science (and Bushian politics...his advisors have obviously been reading some distopian literature for ideas -- I posted on my book blog awhile ago on this, the comments to the post are esp. good.) Isolating the tasks of the different parts of the brain -- okay. Using that knowledge in any way at all -- scary. I'm with Mr. P on that -- just because we can, doesn't mean we should. "All beings are the owners of their deeds, the heirs to their deeds."
Loricat's Book Nook Celebrating the Absurd |
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Posts: 295 03/12/07 22:35:50 Well established |
Quote: Please he's paranoid enough about that as it is. I don't think mind control devices are something mankind really needs. Anyone else thinking about the Manchurian Canditate. The new one, not the old one with the huge plot hole. Every story must come to an end.
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MaesterAuron: Please he's paranoid enough about that as it is.
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- The Battle for God - by Karen Armstrong
- The Future of Life - by Edward O. Wilson
- What is Good? The Search for the Best Way to Live - by A.C. Grayling
- Civilization and It's Enemies: The Next Stage of History - by Lee Harris
- Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space - by Carl Sagan
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- The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition into the Forces of History - by Howard Bloom
- Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies - by Jared Diamond
- Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark - by Carl Sagan
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